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WEBVTT 00:00:30.219 --> 00:00:32.780 MySpace. Yeah, we're talking about that website. 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:38.359 MySpace had a hole in it that let you override 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.140 your own profile with, well, whatever you wanted. 00:00:43.460 --> 00:00:47.659 I think it probably wasn't supposed to work that 00:00:47.659 --> 00:00:50.340 way. Nobody ever fixed it. And it accidentally 00:00:50.340 --> 00:00:54.020 taught an entire generation how to do web design. 00:00:54.619 --> 00:00:59.219 There was a text file. That lived on my home 00:00:59.219 --> 00:01:01.420 computer back in high school. Just sitting there 00:01:01.420 --> 00:01:05.959 on the desktop. I can't for the life of me Remember 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:09.840 what the file was called, but if you opened it 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:13.739 it probably looked like absolute nonsense You 00:01:13.739 --> 00:01:16.819 know to my parents it might as well had been 00:01:16.819 --> 00:01:19.859 written in another language You had things in 00:01:19.859 --> 00:01:23.560 there like hex codes blocks of HTML maybe some 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:29.620 CSS no labels no type of organization. No, none 00:01:29.620 --> 00:01:34.260 of that. Just chunks of code that I had grabbed 00:01:34.260 --> 00:01:36.799 off of other people's pages and hoarded it like 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:39.359 that dragon in the hobbit who hoarded all the 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:44.420 gold. The file was probably one of the most important 00:01:44.420 --> 00:01:49.180 documents of my high school time. I had a lot 00:01:49.180 --> 00:01:51.319 of good notes in that thing. Couldn't tell you 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:55.079 where that file went now, but... Uh, but I'm 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.560 not taking questions on that. Quick disclaimer 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.620 before I get going here. All of this is my opinion, 00:02:00.739 --> 00:02:04.540 my memory, my take. I'm Tyler. Welcome to the 00:02:04.540 --> 00:02:11.080 podcast. Let's talk about MySpace. Not the, uh, 00:02:11.219 --> 00:02:13.919 top eight drama where if you rearranged your 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.539 friends, people would lose their mind on what 00:02:17.539 --> 00:02:21.379 it could mean. And we're not talking about Tom 00:02:21.379 --> 00:02:24.539 being everybody's. First friend, but actually 00:02:24.539 --> 00:02:27.560 speaking of Tom Did you know he's still out there? 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:30.599 He's on Facebook and Instagram. He did some photos 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:34.219 back in 2011 At the Burning Man festival, and 00:02:34.219 --> 00:02:37.159 I think he's on threads now, too. I think or 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:41.300 he was I don't remember but also this isn't going 00:02:41.300 --> 00:02:45.460 to be a It's not it's not going to be a funeral 00:02:45.460 --> 00:02:47.439 about myspace because the internet's already 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:50.520 done that a thousand times over No, we're not 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.879 gonna rehash that I want to get into the single 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:58.099 biggest thing that MySpace had going for it. 00:02:58.219 --> 00:03:00.800 The biggest thing that MySpace ever did. Either 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:04.699 on purpose or not so on purpose. And the thing 00:03:04.699 --> 00:03:10.699 that nobody has tried to bring back since. Being 00:03:10.699 --> 00:03:14.759 able to customize your page. Customizability. 00:03:16.180 --> 00:03:18.979 Either again on purpose or not so on purpose. 00:03:20.099 --> 00:03:25.580 MySpace let you break your own profile on purpose. 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.919 And eventually that became a feature. Now, again, 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.280 was that actually meant to be a feature? Was 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:35.120 somebody sitting in a boardroom going, hey, you 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:38.020 know what we should do? We should give millions 00:03:38.020 --> 00:03:41.639 of teenagers access to redesign our front end. 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:45.460 Probably not. You know what's awesome though? 00:03:47.460 --> 00:03:50.629 MySpace profile pages. had that hole in there. 00:03:51.610 --> 00:03:56.490 The about me box. It didn't just take text. You 00:03:56.490 --> 00:04:00.349 could throw in HTML, CSS, and it would run it. 00:04:00.870 --> 00:04:03.310 Whatever you pasted in there overrode the layout, 00:04:03.770 --> 00:04:06.889 the colors, the styling, not part of it, the 00:04:06.889 --> 00:04:10.330 whole thing, the background, the fonts, the colors, 00:04:11.110 --> 00:04:15.669 where everything set on the page. That was a 00:04:15.669 --> 00:04:20.000 bug. It was just a bug. but a fun bug it's a 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:23.300 bug that a couple million like -minded teenagers 00:04:23.300 --> 00:04:27.420 all found around the same time and thought it 00:04:27.420 --> 00:04:30.000 was the greatest thing that had ever happened 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:34.560 if you're running a myspace profile back in 2005 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:37.600 and people are loving it yeah you're probably 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:43.060 not fixing that do you remember the first time 00:04:43.060 --> 00:04:47.040 you landed on a page that didn't look like everybody 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:51.899 else's None of the blue and the white and the 00:04:51.899 --> 00:04:56.220 orange Somebody I knew Back in high school had 00:04:56.220 --> 00:04:58.680 a custom background custom fonts the whole nine 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:02.699 yards, and I remember sitting there Thinking 00:05:02.699 --> 00:05:09.180 Hold on wait a minute you can do that Nobody 00:05:09.180 --> 00:05:12.879 told me you could do that and when I found out 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:18.920 man it was over every spare hour I had went into 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:24.079 that stupid MySpace page. After school, on the 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:27.540 weekends, sitting at the family computer, in 00:05:27.540 --> 00:05:32.300 the computer room. Remember those? Because I 00:05:32.300 --> 00:05:37.160 mean, there was no MySpace on your phone. That 00:05:37.160 --> 00:05:40.379 wasn't a thing yet. You wanted to work on your 00:05:40.379 --> 00:05:44.019 MySpace profile, you sat there in the chair. 00:05:45.620 --> 00:05:48.899 And there were sites for this. You remember these? 00:05:49.160 --> 00:05:54.759 The layout sites, the code generators, page after 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:59.839 page of pre -made themes. You'd copy a wall of 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:03.879 code, paste it into that box, hit save, and pray 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:07.060 that it looked like that one from the example. 00:06:08.060 --> 00:06:10.660 Sometimes you get something that looked absolutely 00:06:10.660 --> 00:06:14.160 amazing, absolutely gorgeous. Sometimes you get 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:17.680 white text. on a white background and a sidebar 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:20.500 that had relocated over to the nether realm. 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:26.040 Either way, you were learning something, whether 00:06:26.040 --> 00:06:31.740 you meant to or not. That whole broken mess was, 00:06:31.740 --> 00:06:35.639 you know, free coding education running at full 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:41.459 blast. But it was the, it was, you know, disguised 00:06:41.459 --> 00:06:46.879 as, uh, well, I mean, to a bunch of kids in the 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:52.579 early 2000s, it was a popularity contest. You'd 00:06:52.579 --> 00:06:55.420 see the page that you liked, you would view the 00:06:55.420 --> 00:06:58.000 source, start pulling chunks out of it, like 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.980 some web design wizard. What's this table do? 00:07:02.699 --> 00:07:06.160 What's this element do? What happens if I change 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:09.620 this little number? Hang on, why did my entire 00:07:09.620 --> 00:07:12.240 page just turn hot pink? You know, stuff like 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:16.120 that. Nobody assigned any... You know school 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:19.180 assignments on this millions of kids did it anyways 00:07:19.180 --> 00:07:22.620 Because they wanted their corner of the internet 00:07:22.620 --> 00:07:26.259 to look cooler than their friends corner over 00:07:26.259 --> 00:07:30.019 there And I was one of them you were too don't 00:07:30.019 --> 00:07:35.000 lie to me that notepad file Was my textbook and 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:37.920 I wrote it myself with chunks of information 00:07:37.920 --> 00:07:40.540 little snippets that I had found across the internet 00:07:40.540 --> 00:07:46.629 one one stolen little piece at a time Compare 00:07:46.629 --> 00:07:52.110 that to how you would learn to build a page today. 00:07:52.910 --> 00:07:55.350 You pick a template, you drag some blocks around 00:07:55.350 --> 00:07:57.930 inside lines somebody else already drew for you, 00:07:57.930 --> 00:08:04.029 right? And the platform, it actively tries and 00:08:04.029 --> 00:08:07.529 stop you from touching the code underneath. That's 00:08:07.529 --> 00:08:10.550 a no -no. You can't do that even if you wanted 00:08:10.550 --> 00:08:14.949 to, even if you know how to. No view source no 00:08:14.949 --> 00:08:22.209 box to paste into You know that whole Customality 00:08:22.209 --> 00:08:25.910 that on -ramp that whole thing that's gone. We 00:08:25.910 --> 00:08:30.050 get sterile pages now and apps That all look 00:08:30.050 --> 00:08:37.330 identical to one another Think back to August 00:08:37.330 --> 00:08:43.309 of 2003 that's when myspace launches July of 00:08:43.309 --> 00:08:47.970 2005, the big bad news Corp, the big bad boys 00:08:47.970 --> 00:08:51.610 behind Fox announced they're buying MySpace's 00:08:51.610 --> 00:08:57.090 parent company for about $580 million. It was 00:08:57.090 --> 00:09:04.029 a cash deal. By June of 2006, it had passed Yahoo 00:09:04.029 --> 00:09:08.269 and Google to become the most visited website 00:09:08.269 --> 00:09:13.210 in the United States. In 2008, it's pulling in 00:09:13.210 --> 00:09:18.190 around $800 million a year. That's a lot of money. 00:09:19.409 --> 00:09:24.009 A website where teenagers pasted glitter code 00:09:24.009 --> 00:09:27.710 snippets into a text box out trafficked Google 00:09:27.710 --> 00:09:36.049 and Yahoo. And yes, the results were often hideous 00:09:36.049 --> 00:09:41.580 as all hell. I mean, you remember those. You 00:09:41.580 --> 00:09:45.279 had the autoplay music that ambushed you at maximum 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:49.059 percent volume the second the damn page loaded 00:09:49.059 --> 00:09:53.200 You had the you had the glitter graphics cursors 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.480 with trails on them snow Christmas lights in 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.259 July pages that took 40 damn seconds to load 00:10:00.259 --> 00:10:05.159 because somebody Embedded six damn videos on 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:08.820 top of each other the visitor hit counters all 00:10:08.820 --> 00:10:12.960 that crap that was in there It was chaos. It 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:17.840 was absolute chaos, but it was our chaos. It 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:22.580 was your chaos. Every ugly ass page was ugly 00:10:22.580 --> 00:10:26.740 in its own completely unique way. It was special 00:10:26.740 --> 00:10:31.259 because a specific person made it with some questionable 00:10:31.259 --> 00:10:34.600 set of bad decisions to get there. You could 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:37.850 land on a stranger's profile and know something 00:10:37.850 --> 00:10:41.049 about them before you read a single word they 00:10:41.049 --> 00:10:49.309 put on that page. I mean, I met my wife on MySpace 00:10:49.309 --> 00:10:54.730 in 2007. No kidding. MySpace had chat rooms. 00:10:54.809 --> 00:10:57.889 That's how we met. That's a whole other episode. 00:10:58.570 --> 00:11:02.070 I'll get to it at some point. Don't worry. But 00:11:02.070 --> 00:11:08.649 try that today. I mean, go ahead. Every profile 00:11:08.649 --> 00:11:12.730 on every platform is the same template with a 00:11:12.730 --> 00:11:16.870 different photo dropped into the same little 00:11:16.870 --> 00:11:23.129 circle. Same font, same layout, same everything 00:11:23.129 --> 00:11:26.990 really. You could swap the names on a thousand 00:11:26.990 --> 00:11:30.470 accounts and I guarantee you nobody would notice 00:11:30.470 --> 00:11:36.580 because nothing's unique anymore. It's sterile. 00:11:36.980 --> 00:11:41.240 It all looks the same. Where did the permission 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:52.039 go? When did we say no to fun pages? Because 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.539 I don't remember anybody taking a vote on this. 00:11:55.600 --> 00:12:00.639 I didn't get a vote. The ability to make your 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:06.340 MySpace page yours just quietly Vanished one 00:12:06.340 --> 00:12:09.159 day before we knew it. It was gone platform by 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:15.940 platform And I couldn't tell you exactly when 00:12:15.940 --> 00:12:23.519 I if I had to Put a time on it. I would say Probably 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:27.379 somewhere around when I get on Facebook Which 00:12:27.379 --> 00:12:30.840 was probably late 2005 2006 somewhere in there. 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:36.590 I think maybe And I guess at that time, I think 00:12:36.590 --> 00:12:38.909 we all kind of wanted it. You know, Facebook 00:12:38.909 --> 00:12:43.129 was clean. It was fast. It was polished for, 00:12:43.149 --> 00:12:48.549 I mean, 2005 standards. Everything loaded. I 00:12:48.549 --> 00:12:53.029 definitely didn't miss the damn glitter. I mean, 00:12:53.129 --> 00:12:56.730 at least that's how I felt then. They'll tell 00:12:56.730 --> 00:12:59.669 you too it was about security. And to be fair, 00:12:59.870 --> 00:13:03.259 yes, the... The security problems were real. 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:06.899 That hole in the about me box was a code injection 00:13:06.899 --> 00:13:10.240 vector. And I mean, people were misusing it. 00:13:10.620 --> 00:13:13.000 I mean, they were absolutely using it in that 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:19.320 way, but I don't, uh, I don't think that's mostly 00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:22.240 what happened. I think it's, it's much simpler 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:28.179 than that. A page that, uh, that you spent, you 00:13:28.179 --> 00:13:32.059 know, four hours building as a page. you sort 00:13:32.059 --> 00:13:35.460 of sit with. You linger on it for a little bit. 00:13:35.980 --> 00:13:40.519 You're proud of it, right? And lingering, well, 00:13:40.519 --> 00:13:43.940 that's sort of poison to, you know, the feed 00:13:43.940 --> 00:13:48.840 and the algorithms. A feed, especially today, 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:54.720 Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, whatever other flavor 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:59.929 out there, a feed needs you moving. It needs 00:13:59.929 --> 00:14:03.309 you scrolling, swiping past a thousand identical 00:14:03.309 --> 00:14:07.730 stupid little boxes. Customization, it slows 00:14:07.730 --> 00:14:11.909 you down. And slowing down doesn't feed the algorithm. 00:14:12.450 --> 00:14:17.330 And it sure as hell doesn't sell ads. Zuckerberg 00:14:17.330 --> 00:14:22.470 and Musk, they need some more money, right? So, 00:14:22.570 --> 00:14:26.799 I mean, the box where you could... Paste your 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:29.399 weird little HTML get replaced with a template 00:14:29.399 --> 00:14:35.299 You're allowed to fill it in You are never ever 00:14:35.299 --> 00:14:41.360 allowed to touch it Outside of that Customize 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:47.919 make it yours. I Don't think I uh, you know stopped 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:50.639 customizing because I grew out of it they the 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.639 option just kind of slowly got taken away and 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:57.250 then somebody told me The sterile version was 00:14:57.250 --> 00:15:03.230 the one that I wanted all along. Also, let's 00:15:03.230 --> 00:15:06.830 be upfront about this. MySpace didn't die a martyr 00:15:06.830 --> 00:15:09.309 here either. All right, let's be honest about 00:15:09.309 --> 00:15:12.690 that. News Corp, you know, the big bad boys behind 00:15:12.690 --> 00:15:16.710 Fox News Channel, bought it at an absolute top 00:15:16.710 --> 00:15:20.269 premium billing and ran it straight into the 00:15:20.269 --> 00:15:26.889 dirt. Sold it. in June of 2011 for about $35 00:15:26.889 --> 00:15:32.070 million, mostly in stock, to an ad network. You 00:15:32.070 --> 00:15:36.429 know who was one of the, uh, the, uh, the guys 00:15:36.429 --> 00:15:40.750 who bought it? Justin Timberlake. Yeah, the guy 00:15:40.750 --> 00:15:43.629 that was bringing sexy back. He took a piece 00:15:43.629 --> 00:15:48.049 of it. Murdoch, you know, the guy behind News 00:15:48.049 --> 00:15:50.929 Corp and Fox, later called the whole thing a 00:15:50.929 --> 00:15:56.950 huge mistake. Yeah, I bet. 580 million to 35 00:15:56.950 --> 00:16:03.049 million in only six years. That's not losing 00:16:03.049 --> 00:16:05.769 to a better idea. That's buying the coolest thing 00:16:05.769 --> 00:16:08.309 on the internet and carefully managing the cool 00:16:08.309 --> 00:16:14.649 right on out of it. That era was the most fun 00:16:14.649 --> 00:16:19.899 I think the internet had ever been. You know, 00:16:19.899 --> 00:16:22.379 maybe outside of GeoCities and AngelFire and 00:16:22.379 --> 00:16:26.820 those kind of pages. Definitely not the smoothest. 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:30.419 It was really rough around the edges. It also 00:16:30.419 --> 00:16:33.940 wasn't the safest. You know, and definitely not 00:16:33.940 --> 00:16:38.620 the best looking. The most fun though. You could 00:16:38.620 --> 00:16:45.139 really demonstrate your personality. That's what 00:16:45.139 --> 00:16:49.399 I miss about it. Because back then, The deal 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:53.340 was simple. Here's a box. Here's some code. Go 00:16:53.340 --> 00:16:59.480 make something awesome. And we said, at that 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:04.440 time in the 2000s, we said yes so hard that we 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:06.700 accidentally taught ourselves web design without 00:17:06.700 --> 00:17:11.700 ever meaning to. So did a couple million other 00:17:11.700 --> 00:17:15.200 people sitting in their own chairs in that computer 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:20.170 room back in 2005 at their at the the family 00:17:20.170 --> 00:17:24.490 computer. Somewhere out there on a dead hard 00:17:24.490 --> 00:17:28.009 drive, there's a notepad file full of hex codes 00:17:28.009 --> 00:17:31.490 with my name on it. I'm sure that file is gone. 00:17:31.589 --> 00:17:34.109 I don't think I've got that drive anymore, but 00:17:34.109 --> 00:17:37.990 what it taught me never left. I'm still out there 00:17:37.990 --> 00:17:42.430 creating, still out there making websites. And 00:17:42.430 --> 00:17:45.650 I think we need to get back to that that part 00:17:45.650 --> 00:17:50.039 of the Internet where we can Customize and show 00:17:50.039 --> 00:17:53.480 our own personalities again, so we're not Trying 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:56.640 to be like everybody else out there. 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