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WEBVTT 00:00:00.490 --> 00:00:04.950 The first group that I worked for back in 2014 00:00:04.950 --> 00:00:09.369 had already shut their HD radio operations down 00:00:09.369 --> 00:00:12.869 before I got there, which at the time I didn't 00:00:12.869 --> 00:00:16.429 think much about. A lot of stations had already 00:00:16.429 --> 00:00:20.170 shut it down. But my chief engineer used to tell 00:00:20.170 --> 00:00:23.089 me a story about how every few months they'd 00:00:23.089 --> 00:00:25.289 send someone down to the radio shack at the local 00:00:25.289 --> 00:00:29.649 mall. you know, just to see how the HD radio 00:00:29.649 --> 00:00:33.509 receivers were actually selling, you know, see 00:00:33.509 --> 00:00:36.869 what the stock was, how many were on the shelf, 00:00:36.969 --> 00:00:41.210 whether anything had been sold. And for a long 00:00:41.210 --> 00:00:46.289 time, the story was always the same, disappointing, 00:00:46.729 --> 00:00:48.850 dusty boxes, staff who didn't know what they 00:00:48.850 --> 00:00:51.729 were or how to sell them and nobody asking about 00:00:51.729 --> 00:00:56.469 them. Then one day, the rock station put the 00:00:56.469 --> 00:01:03.130 cubs on their HD2 channel. The receivers sold 00:01:03.130 --> 00:01:07.189 out. I think about that story because it tells 00:01:07.189 --> 00:01:11.409 you almost everything you need to know about 00:01:11.409 --> 00:01:17.030 HD radio. What it could have been, why it mostly 00:01:17.030 --> 00:01:20.969 wasn't, and why we're still having this conversation 00:01:20.969 --> 00:01:24.709 20 something years after the FCC approved this 00:01:24.709 --> 00:01:29.209 thing. This is the Tyler Woodward project. I'm 00:01:29.209 --> 00:01:31.569 Tyler Woodward. I'm a broadcast engineer and 00:01:31.569 --> 00:01:36.329 today I'm talking about HD radio Opinions are 00:01:36.329 --> 00:01:39.250 my own everything here is from my perspective 00:01:39.250 --> 00:01:42.370 not speaking on behalf of my employer stations 00:01:42.370 --> 00:01:54.010 networks vendors or anybody else out there To 00:01:55.349 --> 00:01:59.530 understand what HD radio was supposed to do you 00:01:59.530 --> 00:02:05.450 have to go back to 2001 2002 satellite radio 00:02:05.450 --> 00:02:09.509 just launched you had XM and Sirius on the air 00:02:09.509 --> 00:02:13.250 they're selling subscriptions and they're doing 00:02:13.250 --> 00:02:19.469 it with digital audio nationwide no static CD 00:02:19.469 --> 00:02:21.909 quality and broadcasters are looking at this 00:02:21.909 --> 00:02:27.599 going Boy, we need an answer to that Europe is 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:31.680 rolling out something called DAB digital audio 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:37.900 broadcasting dedicated new spectrum shared infrastructure 00:02:37.900 --> 00:02:44.340 think of it like ATSC 3 .0 Lighthouses listeners 00:02:44.340 --> 00:02:47.520 buy a new radio and get a clean digital signal 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:53.150 by 2026 the UK would be at something like 74 00:02:53.150 --> 00:02:56.449 % of all radio listening happening would be on 00:02:56.449 --> 00:03:00.789 a digital platform. Norway shut off FM entirely 00:03:00.789 --> 00:03:06.770 back in 2017. That model worked. The US looked 00:03:06.770 --> 00:03:13.689 at DAB and went, nah, we'll pass. What we got 00:03:13.689 --> 00:03:20.419 instead was Eibach in band on channel. Keep the 00:03:20.419 --> 00:03:24.159 analog signal exactly where it is, just bolt 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:26.560 some digital sub -carriers onto the sides of 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:31.979 it. Same tower, same antenna, same frequency. 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:37.419 The FCC approved iBiquity's version, which they 00:03:37.419 --> 00:03:44.939 branded as HD Radio in October of 2002. The appeal 00:03:44.939 --> 00:03:50.090 from the get -go was... obvious. No new spectrum 00:03:50.090 --> 00:03:53.650 needed. No existing stations would lose their 00:03:53.650 --> 00:03:58.689 coverage. You go digital on the channel you already 00:03:58.689 --> 00:04:04.870 own. The FCC's own order said DAB had no, quote, 00:04:05.110 --> 00:04:10.009 no active domestic proponent and no appreciable 00:04:10.009 --> 00:04:13.030 support within the broadcast industry, unquote. 00:04:14.509 --> 00:04:17.990 Eibach was the only thing any radio station here 00:04:17.990 --> 00:04:23.009 in the US was willing to build. The pitch to 00:04:23.009 --> 00:04:27.589 the listener was cleaner digital audio on FM, 00:04:28.589 --> 00:04:32.389 extra programming on HD2 and HD3, and eventually 00:04:32.389 --> 00:04:38.829 a path to going fully digital. The receiver would 00:04:38.829 --> 00:04:43.610 blend seamlessly from digital to analog if you 00:04:43.610 --> 00:04:47.160 drove out a range. The FM and HD one blending 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:52.480 so You'd never notice the transition better radio 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:56.680 same radio stations. No disruption now in Practice, 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.079 we know the blending didn't work quite as well 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:02.759 as it was it was advertised But that was the 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:08.600 promise The audio The quality improvement was 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:12.899 real. I I do want to give HD radio that on a 00:05:12.899 --> 00:05:16.600 good signal In a good car with a good stereo, 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:22.060 the FM HD1 channel does sound noticeably cleaner 00:05:22.060 --> 00:05:27.019 than the analog equivalent. I mean, you've got 00:05:27.019 --> 00:05:31.160 a lower noise floor, no multipath flutter. If 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:36.459 you've ever watched your FM signal dissolve in 00:05:36.459 --> 00:05:41.860 a parking garage, I mean, HD radio would fix 00:05:41.860 --> 00:05:44.959 that. until you're too far away, at which point 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:49.939 it fixes itself by disappearing entirely. But 00:05:49.939 --> 00:05:54.139 cleaner than analog FM is not the same thing 00:05:54.139 --> 00:05:59.680 as competing with a streaming service or a satellite 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:04.540 service, which is what HD radio was actually 00:06:04.540 --> 00:06:09.589 supposed to be doing. By the time HD radio was 00:06:09.589 --> 00:06:14.610 in a meaningful number of car dashboards 2014 00:06:14.610 --> 00:06:19.629 ish 2015 people already had Spotify in their 00:06:19.629 --> 00:06:24.769 pocket the window had moved The receiver situation 00:06:24.769 --> 00:06:28.589 was a mess before we even got to that part every 00:06:28.589 --> 00:06:33.149 HD radio receiver The chip inside that thing 00:06:33.149 --> 00:06:38.879 had a royalty attached to it I biquity was a 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:42.959 intellectual property company. That was their 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:47.000 business model, not licensing the broadcasters, 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:51.300 not selling the equipment, collecting royalties 00:06:51.300 --> 00:06:56.500 on every receiver manufactured. Their CEO, Bob 00:06:56.500 --> 00:06:58.800 Struble said that when a station went on the 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:03.180 air with HD radio, I biquity averaged about a 00:07:03.180 --> 00:07:07.560 thousand bucks. He called it quote, a wholly 00:07:07.560 --> 00:07:12.000 material part of our business model, unquote. 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:19.500 The money was in the HD radio chip, which meant 00:07:19.500 --> 00:07:24.920 HD radio never get cheaper and never get into 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:27.879 those $15 radios that you could run down the 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.860 street and buy at Walgreens. It never showed 00:07:30.860 --> 00:07:33.420 up in the FM receiver that's sitting disabled 00:07:33.420 --> 00:07:39.649 inside most smartphones. The station fee itself 00:07:39.649 --> 00:07:44.870 was actually a one -time flat license, not a 00:07:44.870 --> 00:07:48.350 cut of your ad revenue, not an annual payment. 00:07:49.389 --> 00:07:54.069 In 2002, in 2003, Ibequity actually waived it 00:07:54.069 --> 00:07:59.389 entirely to try to get people on board. After 00:07:59.389 --> 00:08:05.129 that, the published rate kept climbing. $5 ,000, 00:08:05.350 --> 00:08:10.420 then $10 ,000, then 15, peaking around 25 ,000 00:08:10.420 --> 00:08:17.540 by 2008. Then in 2010, they cut it back to 10 00:08:17.540 --> 00:08:22.079 ,000 with a five -year payment plan. The revenue 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.439 share kicked in only if you ran sub channels 00:08:25.439 --> 00:08:30.839 and made money from those. 3 % of whatever new 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:35.340 income the HD2 or HD3 channel actually generated. 00:08:36.429 --> 00:08:41.309 With a minimum of about a thousand dollars per 00:08:41.309 --> 00:08:45.909 year per channel Your existing FM ad sales were 00:08:45.909 --> 00:08:52.269 never touched in that So the cost to a station 00:08:52.269 --> 00:08:56.409 to go on the air with HD radio Wasn't nearly 00:08:56.409 --> 00:08:59.690 that bad the equipment conversation. However, 00:09:00.309 --> 00:09:05.149 that is a real number a hundred thousand dollars, 00:09:05.269 --> 00:09:08.769 maybe more Probably more, depending on your setup. 00:09:09.769 --> 00:09:12.929 In the early days, that equipment was absolutely 00:09:12.929 --> 00:09:17.370 painful. High level combining, that's the part 00:09:17.370 --> 00:09:19.809 that made a lot of chief engineers look at HD 00:09:19.809 --> 00:09:22.830 radio and decide, man, that ain't worth the headache. 00:09:24.610 --> 00:09:28.690 When HD radio first rolled out, you were merging 00:09:28.690 --> 00:09:34.090 the analog and digital signals, which meant specialized 00:09:34.090 --> 00:09:37.370 gear. careful tuning and generating a serious 00:09:37.370 --> 00:09:39.610 amount of heat for what you were actually getting 00:09:39.610 --> 00:09:46.990 out of it. The combining hardware itself was 00:09:46.990 --> 00:09:50.370 big and it ran hot. And if something went wrong, 00:09:50.590 --> 00:09:54.389 you were troubleshooting a system that most engineers 00:09:54.389 --> 00:09:57.629 of the time hadn't grown up with. A lot of shops 00:09:57.629 --> 00:10:01.009 looked at that rack and said, no, that ain't 00:10:01.009 --> 00:10:05.519 worth it. But that's not where we are anymore 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:08.779 Companies like our friends up north not tell 00:10:08.779 --> 00:10:13.379 I mean they figured this out Their HD multicast 00:10:13.379 --> 00:10:17.559 plus unit is a completely different Proposition 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:21.360 compact it's integrated the exporter and importer 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:24.840 functions that used to require a pile of separate 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.559 hardware Were consolidated into something that 00:10:28.559 --> 00:10:32.279 actually fits in a normal equipment room without 00:10:32.620 --> 00:10:36.940 having to rethink your cooling setup. The barrier 00:10:36.940 --> 00:10:42.539 to entry in 2026 is a fraction of what it was 00:10:42.539 --> 00:10:51.340 in 2006. It's actually easier to run HD radio 00:10:51.340 --> 00:10:56.580 now than it has ever been, which makes the adoption 00:10:56.580 --> 00:11:01.019 numbers way more painful. because about 20 % 00:11:01.019 --> 00:11:03.679 of commercial FM stations are actually running 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:08.759 it. Just 20%. In top 50 markets, that number 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:11.899 is probably better. Maybe half of full power 00:11:11.899 --> 00:11:16.159 FMs. Outside the top 50, that number drops off 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:22.159 really quick. AMHD largely collapsed. Most stations 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.350 that tried it turned it off because the the hybrid 00:11:26.350 --> 00:11:28.590 signal caused interference on adjacent channels. 00:11:28.750 --> 00:11:32.629 And at night, when AM starts sky -waving hundreds 00:11:32.629 --> 00:11:36.830 of miles, that interference could carry over 00:11:36.830 --> 00:11:41.889 and reach stations in the next state. The engineering 00:11:41.889 --> 00:11:46.309 problems got solved over time, just not on a 00:11:46.309 --> 00:11:51.830 schedule that would have changed anything. The 00:11:51.830 --> 00:11:55.230 sub -channels are where I have the most complicated 00:11:55.360 --> 00:12:01.820 uh feelings about hd2 and hd3 were really interesting 00:12:01.820 --> 00:12:06.279 ideas you've got a broadcaster with an existing 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:10.360 fm signal and suddenly they can run two or three 00:12:10.360 --> 00:12:13.240 additional streams of programming on the same 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:16.179 channel with no additional over -the -air cost 00:12:16.179 --> 00:12:21.480 you could feel uh fill a format niche reviving 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:25.299 a dead brand Run a foreign language service put 00:12:25.299 --> 00:12:30.600 a sports affiliate somewhere useful now some 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:33.899 of that happened I Heart to their credit ran 00:12:33.899 --> 00:12:37.659 a nationwide LGBTQ format called pride radio 00:12:37.659 --> 00:12:40.960 on HD sub channels for years. I think it's still 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:44.559 out there classic rock stations brought back 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:49.039 legendary formats public radio stations used 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:53.159 HD 2 for classical or jazz student stations, 00:12:54.019 --> 00:12:56.679 community programming, that would have never 00:12:56.679 --> 00:13:02.960 have made it onto a primary frequency. But HD 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:06.179 sub channels, they don't have an analog fallback 00:13:06.179 --> 00:13:10.240 like HD1. Drive away far enough from the transmitter 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.539 and when you lose that digital signal, the sub 00:13:13.539 --> 00:13:18.200 channel just stops. No blend, no analog version 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:23.570 to fall back to. It's just gone. Coverage is 00:13:23.570 --> 00:13:26.210 significantly smaller than the primary signal 00:13:26.210 --> 00:13:31.110 because of that. And over time, a lot of those 00:13:31.110 --> 00:13:34.009 sub channels quietly became something less interesting 00:13:34.009 --> 00:13:39.730 than a niche program would have been. Think FM 00:13:39.730 --> 00:13:44.090 translators. A low power FM signal rebroadcasting 00:13:44.090 --> 00:13:47.570 an AM station or some sort of syndicated format 00:13:47.570 --> 00:13:53.509 from an HD2 station. That was getting relayed 00:13:53.509 --> 00:13:57.490 on the FM side The FCC allows it. It's fine. 00:13:57.509 --> 00:14:00.809 It's useful But what happened in a lot of markets 00:14:00.809 --> 00:14:04.309 is the HD2 channel that was supposed to be a 00:14:04.309 --> 00:14:08.730 new digital content stream became Just a feeder 00:14:08.730 --> 00:14:13.929 for a translator running an AM simulcast The 00:14:13.929 --> 00:14:18.149 sub channel and it exists technically it just 00:14:18.149 --> 00:14:21.269 isn't doing what the PowerPoint said it would 00:14:21.269 --> 00:14:27.230 do back in 2001. Which brings me back to the 00:14:27.230 --> 00:14:31.789 Cubs. The Radio Shack story isn't just some fun 00:14:31.789 --> 00:14:35.909 trip down memory lane. It's a proof of concept. 00:14:37.009 --> 00:14:40.789 If you give people content they actually want, 00:14:41.509 --> 00:14:44.870 content they can't get anywhere else, and they 00:14:44.870 --> 00:14:48.940 will find a way to receive it. They will buy 00:14:48.940 --> 00:14:53.820 the box. They will dig through the menu in the 00:14:53.820 --> 00:14:58.480 car. The technology wasn't the problem that day. 00:14:59.899 --> 00:15:04.120 The content strategy finally worked. Most stations 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:08.360 never found their version of Cubs baseball. They 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:12.700 put up an HD2 channel, ran smooth jazz for six 00:15:12.700 --> 00:15:16.600 months, got bored and pointed it over to the 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:24.399 translator. However, there is a part of the HD 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.080 radio story that doesn't get enough attention. 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:33.259 HD radio can also carry data. I mean, you're 00:15:33.259 --> 00:15:35.220 probably thinking, well, of course, digital audio 00:15:35.220 --> 00:15:39.039 data. But no, think actual data services embedded 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.740 in the digital stream, not just the audio. The 00:15:43.740 --> 00:15:48.399 most visible part that you might remember is 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.340 the song metadata. you know title artists album 00:15:51.340 --> 00:15:54.299 art on your car display that works and a lot 00:15:54.299 --> 00:15:57.080 of people use it and don't realize that it's 00:15:57.080 --> 00:16:02.940 hd radio actually powering it but there was a 00:16:02.940 --> 00:16:07.360 way more ambitious version of this real -time 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.639 traffic data when radio stations still carried 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:14.240 actual traffic hd radio stations and major markets 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:18.309 were broadcasting live traffic Map overlays incident 00:16:18.309 --> 00:16:21.289 locations travel times embedded invisibly in 00:16:21.289 --> 00:16:25.889 the HD signal your Vehicles navigation system 00:16:25.889 --> 00:16:29.169 could receive it with no subscription and no 00:16:29.169 --> 00:16:32.830 Cellier signal just by being in range of that 00:16:32.830 --> 00:16:37.929 FM station free over -the -air real -time navigation 00:16:37.929 --> 00:16:41.470 data using infrastructure that already existed 00:16:41.470 --> 00:16:46.870 Now unfortunately that service is long gone The 00:16:46.870 --> 00:16:49.789 navigation industry moved to cellular and crowdsourced 00:16:49.789 --> 00:16:53.750 data apps like Waze and Google Maps and Apple 00:16:53.750 --> 00:16:57.029 Maps. You know, those are updated constantly. 00:16:58.529 --> 00:17:03.950 Nationwide, no FM coverage required. The HD data 00:17:03.950 --> 00:17:07.410 layer couldn't compete with that and just sort 00:17:07.410 --> 00:17:16.430 of phased out quietly. The metadata part survived 00:17:16.430 --> 00:17:21.589 because it's cheap and nobody's trying to replace 00:17:21.589 --> 00:17:27.309 that yet. The bigger data ambitions got eaten 00:17:27.309 --> 00:17:30.769 by the smartphone market the same way the audio 00:17:30.769 --> 00:17:38.509 quality story got eaten by streaming. AMHD is 00:17:38.509 --> 00:17:41.329 another part of this that deserves a separate 00:17:41.329 --> 00:17:45.759 little moment because There's something genuinely 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:53.559 really cool about that. Now, hybrid AMHD, that 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:57.599 was a mess. The digital carriers overlapped, 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:00.599 caused issues with the adjacent channels, and 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:03.200 night when AM signals started doing its sky -waving 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.299 dance, you could be spreading interference for 00:18:07.299 --> 00:18:10.940 hundreds of miles. Engineers, to their credit, 00:18:11.309 --> 00:18:13.710 I mean, they spent years filing complaints with 00:18:13.710 --> 00:18:16.930 the FCC about it, trying to get something done. 00:18:17.809 --> 00:18:20.509 Most AM stations threw in the towel and just 00:18:20.509 --> 00:18:25.990 turned it off. But the FCC in 2020 did something 00:18:25.990 --> 00:18:29.650 really cool. They authorized all digital AM. 00:18:30.250 --> 00:18:34.849 MA3 mode. Drop the analog signal entirely. Go 00:18:34.849 --> 00:18:39.619 full 100 % digital. A station. and Frederick 00:18:39.619 --> 00:18:45.700 Maryland WWFD on 820 AM. Engineers tested it 00:18:45.700 --> 00:18:48.200 extensively with the folks from iBiquity or Xpery, 00:18:48.259 --> 00:18:52.859 whoever it was at that time. All digital AM without 00:18:52.859 --> 00:18:56.220 the interference constraints of the hybrid system. 00:18:56.799 --> 00:19:00.140 And from what I'm told, it's really good. It's 00:19:00.140 --> 00:19:04.220 more robust, more consistent coverage. You get 00:19:04.220 --> 00:19:07.970 stereo on AM again. Song data album art even 00:19:07.970 --> 00:19:10.230 a secondary channel because you don't have the 00:19:10.230 --> 00:19:13.730 analog taken up space The station actually charted 00:19:13.730 --> 00:19:17.589 in Nielsen ratings with a signal that maybe Just 00:19:17.589 --> 00:19:20.710 maybe 25 % of area cars could actually receive 00:19:20.710 --> 00:19:25.549 The technology is proven to work Nobody else 00:19:25.549 --> 00:19:28.349 is doing it though because there's no mandate. 00:19:28.349 --> 00:19:32.089 There's no sunset date for analog AM There's 00:19:32.089 --> 00:19:35.700 no incentive for an owner to abandon the signal 00:19:35.700 --> 00:19:38.819 that reaches every AM radio right now in favor 00:19:38.819 --> 00:19:41.940 of one that reaches maybe a small percentage 00:19:41.940 --> 00:19:47.000 of nearby listeners. WWFD is doing it because 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:50.200 Hubbard Broadcasting truly believes in it and 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:53.019 well let's be honest has the resources to experiment. 00:19:55.059 --> 00:20:01.119 The thing they got HD radio approved is the same 00:20:01.119 --> 00:20:07.450 thing that I think kept it from ever mattering. 00:20:07.809 --> 00:20:12.630 End band, no new spectrum, backwards compatible, 00:20:12.950 --> 00:20:17.509 no disruption to existing stations. The FCC looked 00:20:17.509 --> 00:20:21.549 at DAB in 2002 and said there wasn't spectrum 00:20:21.549 --> 00:20:25.890 for it. Said the broadcast industry didn't want 00:20:25.890 --> 00:20:29.990 it. Said it would take years to clear the bands. 00:20:31.750 --> 00:20:36.660 And they were right. About all of it HD radio 00:20:36.660 --> 00:20:39.559 was the thing that could be deployed quickly 00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:46.059 You got to think at that time the industry was 00:20:46.059 --> 00:20:52.079 pretty worried about satellite radio but Can 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:56.480 be deployed quickly and will move listeners to 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:02.829 digital radio That turned out to be two different 00:21:02.829 --> 00:21:09.109 things Now DAB worked in the UK and Norway and 00:21:09.109 --> 00:21:12.230 Germany because someone Eventually said hey, 00:21:12.250 --> 00:21:16.109 we're shutting off FM. Here's the date and here's 00:21:16.109 --> 00:21:20.410 the date that you need to buy a new radio I mean, 00:21:20.529 --> 00:21:24.190 that's brutal and Norway listeners weren't exactly 00:21:24.190 --> 00:21:29.609 happy about it, but it worked In the US there 00:21:29.609 --> 00:21:33.660 was never There was never that mandate that forcing 00:21:33.660 --> 00:21:38.440 function to move people HD radio was always optional 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:44.279 here for the stations and the listeners The analog 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:47.279 signal stayed on the listeners kept the old radio 00:21:47.279 --> 00:21:51.019 in the Digital signal rode along behind it for 00:21:51.019 --> 00:21:57.960 20 plus years waiting hoping to be noticed The 00:21:57.960 --> 00:22:01.299 equipment has gotten easier The fees have come 00:22:01.299 --> 00:22:06.039 down, the technology got genuinely better, especially 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:10.980 on the AM side. And none of it changed the trajectory 00:22:10.980 --> 00:22:18.240 because nothing ever had to change. The promises, 00:22:18.539 --> 00:22:22.920 they were real. Better audio, new channels, data 00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.519 services, a path to fully digital. Some of them, 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:29.410 I mean, it got delivered. Partially in some markets 00:22:29.410 --> 00:22:31.490 for some listeners. Most of them are still like 00:22:31.490 --> 00:22:36.970 me and still waiting The comparison now Isn't 00:22:36.970 --> 00:22:41.650 the satellite radio? It's Spotify It's Apple 00:22:41.650 --> 00:22:47.569 music and podcasting the window HD radio Was 00:22:47.569 --> 00:22:50.410 supposed to fill has been replaced three times 00:22:50.410 --> 00:22:55.009 over by the internet. I Don't think HD radio 00:22:55.009 --> 00:22:59.200 is going away It's in way too many cars at this 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.119 point. It calls stations literally nothing to 00:23:02.119 --> 00:23:05.099 leave it on and Xperia has a whole connected 00:23:05.099 --> 00:23:09.500 car platform built around it now It'll keep existing 00:23:09.500 --> 00:23:15.859 but The version of HD radio where your FM station 00:23:15.859 --> 00:23:19.140 sounds better than anything your phone can do 00:23:19.140 --> 00:23:23.240 Where every market has its cubs? Where the data 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:26.339 layer is doing something your navigation? App 00:23:26.339 --> 00:23:29.859 on your phone can't? Well, that version never 00:23:29.859 --> 00:23:36.779 arrived. The Cubs sold out that radio shack in 00:23:36.779 --> 00:23:40.599 little old La Crosse, Wisconsin. The rest of 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:44.319 the industry mostly didn't bother to figure out 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:51.140 why. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or 00:23:51.140 --> 00:23:54.799 iHeartRadio. Yes, I'm even there. 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