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WEBVTT 00:00:00.460 --> 00:00:05.139 You scroll a little and it's the same joke again 00:00:05.139 --> 00:00:11.179 same image same phrasing same replies and somehow 00:00:11.179 --> 00:00:16.980 The comets are either empty weirdly enthusiastic 00:00:16.980 --> 00:00:22.420 or aggressively angry in ways that doesn't really 00:00:22.420 --> 00:00:29.510 feel human And then you have a thought Wait Am 00:00:29.510 --> 00:00:33.890 I talking to bots? Today, we're digging into 00:00:33.890 --> 00:00:38.689 the dead internet theory, what it claims, what's 00:00:38.689 --> 00:00:43.329 actually happening, what's sort of exaggerated, 00:00:43.729 --> 00:00:47.149 and how to stay sane online when the internet 00:00:47.149 --> 00:00:50.429 feels like it's being replaced with a vending 00:00:50.429 --> 00:00:54.990 machine full of content. Welcome back to the 00:00:54.990 --> 00:00:58.119 Tyler Woodward Project. I'm Tyler, a broadcast 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:04.120 engineer by trade, a Linux nerd by choice, and 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:08.519 I enjoy the mystifying tech that's supposedly 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:14.299 too complicated for people. The dead internet 00:01:14.299 --> 00:01:18.579 theory, if you've never heard that phrase, is 00:01:18.579 --> 00:01:23.099 basically the idea that most online activity 00:01:23.099 --> 00:01:28.469 is no longer driven by real humans. instead it's 00:01:28.469 --> 00:01:33.849 bots talking to other bots auto -generated post 00:01:33.849 --> 00:01:38.010 fake engagement and a handful of actual people 00:01:38.010 --> 00:01:42.609 wandering around inside it like they're in an 00:01:42.609 --> 00:01:47.010 abandoned mall food court there are two versions 00:01:47.010 --> 00:01:52.109 of this story the soft version says a lot of 00:01:52.109 --> 00:01:56.060 what you see is automated manipulated and optimize 00:01:56.060 --> 00:02:01.900 for engagement. The hard version says most people 00:02:01.900 --> 00:02:06.980 are basically gone and you're living in a synthetic 00:02:06.980 --> 00:02:12.259 internet. We're going to treat it like an engineering 00:02:12.259 --> 00:02:15.840 problem. Define the claim, look at the signals, 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:20.879 look at the incentives, and talk about what you 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:28.310 can do. Also, quick glossary. As we go SEO stands 00:02:28.310 --> 00:02:32.669 for search engine optimization making pages rank 00:02:32.669 --> 00:02:37.770 higher and search results LLM is large language 00:02:37.770 --> 00:02:43.349 model the kind of AI that predicts and generates 00:02:43.349 --> 00:02:49.129 text and ad tech is the whole advertising technology 00:02:49.129 --> 00:02:52.650 machine that buys and sells your attention in 00:02:52.650 --> 00:02:59.340 milliseconds Here's the plan. First, we'll break 00:02:59.340 --> 00:03:04.860 down what's true, what's overstated, and then 00:03:04.860 --> 00:03:08.879 second, we'll look at how this shows up across 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:15.120 social platforms, video, and the open web. And 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:18.199 finally, I'll give you some practical takeaways 00:03:18.199 --> 00:03:22.599 so you can tune your feeds and your brain back 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:37.009 to something livable. Let's steel man the theory 00:03:37.009 --> 00:03:41.069 first, because the feeling that the internet 00:03:41.069 --> 00:03:46.949 is dead didn't come from nowhere. A huge amount 00:03:46.949 --> 00:03:51.009 of online content is automated. Some of it is 00:03:51.009 --> 00:03:54.550 harmless, scheduled posts, weather bots, auto 00:03:54.550 --> 00:03:59.050 captions, repost accounts, news headlines syndicated 00:03:59.050 --> 00:04:04.000 everywhere. But a lot of it is built to capture 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:09.240 money or influence, fake reviews, fake storefronts, 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:14.280 affiliate spam, political astroturfing, scam 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:19.800 DMs, and bot replies engineered to bait you into 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:24.560 arguing. And man, I have seen a few of my own 00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:30.860 on that over the years. And yes, AI cranked the 00:04:30.860 --> 00:04:36.699 volume knob to 11. Before, content farms had 00:04:36.699 --> 00:04:42.000 to pay actual writers. Now, a person can spin 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:46.480 up a pipeline where a model generates 500 articles, 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.759 an open generator makes original thumbnails, 00:04:49.899 --> 00:04:52.439 and a script posts them across dozens of sites 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:56.300 at a time. The cost per piece of content drop 00:04:56.300 --> 00:05:03.449 through the floor. So, the soft version of the 00:05:03.449 --> 00:05:06.149 dead internet theory is absolutely grounded in 00:05:06.149 --> 00:05:11.750 reality automation is everywhere and the incentives 00:05:11.750 --> 00:05:20.350 reward it now the hard version the most humans 00:05:20.350 --> 00:05:28.189 are gone doesn't hold up as stated the internet 00:05:28.189 --> 00:05:32.939 is It still has billions of real users. What's 00:05:32.939 --> 00:05:38.459 changed is that on many platforms, the most visible 00:05:38.459 --> 00:05:44.939 layer is that optimized content, not authentic 00:05:44.939 --> 00:05:51.420 conversation. Here's the key idea. The internet 00:05:51.420 --> 00:05:57.060 isn't dead, but a lot of it is now mediated by 00:05:57.259 --> 00:06:02.060 ranking systems. On social platforms, you don't 00:06:02.060 --> 00:06:05.620 see what your friends said today. You see what 00:06:05.620 --> 00:06:09.220 the platform thinks will keep you there. Keep 00:06:09.220 --> 00:06:13.279 your eyeballs on the screen. On search, you don't 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:17.579 see the best answer. You see what a ranking system 00:06:17.579 --> 00:06:23.519 believes matches your query influenced by SEO 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:30.230 and site reputation signals on video platforms 00:06:30.230 --> 00:06:35.149 you don't see what's new you see what will maximize 00:06:35.149 --> 00:06:43.550 screen time that distinction matters because 00:06:43.550 --> 00:06:50.730 it means low effort high output high output content 00:06:50.730 --> 00:06:58.230 has a structural advantage If you can produce 00:06:58.230 --> 00:07:02.730 10 ,000 pieces of content and only 10 need to 00:07:02.730 --> 00:07:08.490 rank or go viral to pay the bills, you win. And 00:07:08.490 --> 00:07:12.089 the content doesn't even have to be good. It 00:07:12.089 --> 00:07:16.230 just has to be clickable and plausible long enough 00:07:16.230 --> 00:07:20.069 to earn an ad impression, an affiliate click, 00:07:21.149 --> 00:07:26.569 or even a follow. That's the economics. underneath 00:07:26.569 --> 00:07:35.110 the quote -unquote dead feeling. Attention, arbitrage. 00:07:39.009 --> 00:07:44.689 One more layer. Bots aren't just posting. Bots 00:07:44.689 --> 00:07:50.189 also shape what gets promoted. Fake likes, fake 00:07:50.189 --> 00:07:53.350 follows, coordinated replies, engagement pods. 00:07:53.790 --> 00:07:57.689 These are all ways to push algorithmic systems. 00:07:58.730 --> 00:08:01.870 And once ranking systems get polluted, the incentives 00:08:01.870 --> 00:08:05.730 get even worse. Honest creators have to compete 00:08:05.730 --> 00:08:09.209 with noise that can be manufactured at scale. 00:08:10.189 --> 00:08:15.629 This is why it matters in real life when trust 00:08:15.629 --> 00:08:20.889 collapses. People spend more time verifying basic 00:08:20.889 --> 00:08:24.579 stuff. And let's be real. That's exhausting. 00:08:25.819 --> 00:08:30.300 It also changes what gets built. Platforms start 00:08:30.300 --> 00:08:35.379 optimizing for containment, not discovery. Because 00:08:35.379 --> 00:08:39.620 discovery becomes dangerous when the map is full 00:08:39.620 --> 00:08:45.299 of traps. From a broadcast engineering lens, 00:08:45.940 --> 00:08:49.399 this looks like a classic signal to noise problem. 00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:52.759 If you raise the noise floor high enough, even 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:57.440 a clean signal becomes hard to detect, and the 00:08:57.440 --> 00:09:02.059 viewer blames the TV, not the transmitter. Online, 00:09:02.100 --> 00:09:06.899 when the noise floor rises, spam, bots, AI slop, 00:09:07.700 --> 00:09:13.419 people stop trusting the channel itself. So what's 00:09:13.419 --> 00:09:19.700 the accurate way to say it? The internet isn't 00:09:19.700 --> 00:09:25.529 dead, but Parts of it are industrial. They are 00:09:25.529 --> 00:09:31.149 mass produced, optimized, and increasingly synthetic. 00:09:32.149 --> 00:09:34.549 And because we experience the internet through 00:09:34.549 --> 00:09:38.990 feeds and search results, the industrial layer 00:09:38.990 --> 00:09:44.950 can feel like the whole thing. Now, let's connect 00:09:44.950 --> 00:09:48.730 that to what you've probably seen this week. 00:09:50.379 --> 00:09:55.399 Let's do a quick platform tour because dead internet 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:59.240 theory Feels most convincing when you zoom into 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:06.759 the specifics first the open web and search Use 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:11.720 search for something simple like best router 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:15.960 settings or how to fix a washing machine error 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:21.019 code and you get 10 pages that read like they 00:10:21.019 --> 00:10:24.000 were written by the same person, wearing different 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:28.860 mustaches, long intros, vague paragraphs, and 00:10:28.860 --> 00:10:32.299 then a list of steps that never actually solved 00:10:32.299 --> 00:10:36.740 the real problem. That's SEO spam and made for 00:10:36.740 --> 00:10:40.879 advertising content. Some of it is AI generated, 00:10:41.220 --> 00:10:45.720 some of it is human written, but templated. The 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.330 goal is the same, rank, show ads, earn clicks 00:10:49.330 --> 00:10:54.490 you see this most with recipe websites the whole 00:10:54.490 --> 00:10:57.330 long life story before actually getting to the 00:10:57.330 --> 00:11:04.070 recipe second let's talk about x facebook threads 00:11:04.070 --> 00:11:08.710 the reply zones you post a thought and within 00:11:08.710 --> 00:11:11.289 minutes you get replies that are either oddly 00:11:11.289 --> 00:11:16.669 generic well said or aggressively polarizing 00:11:16.860 --> 00:11:20.659 or they contain a link that you probably should 00:11:20.659 --> 00:11:25.019 never click. Those are often bought accounts 00:11:25.019 --> 00:11:30.240 or semi -automated accounts. Even when they're 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:33.159 real, and I'll say that in quotes, quote unquote 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:38.399 real, they can be coordinated. The effect is 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:41.799 to bend the vibe of the conversation. More heat, 00:11:42.700 --> 00:11:46.059 less light, and a lot more performative shouting. 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:51.539 Third, let's talk about TikTok, YouTube shorts 00:11:51.539 --> 00:11:57.360 and other video platforms. Repost are the big 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:03.840 tell. The same clip with the same captions, maybe 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:07.940 slightly cropped, maybe mirrored, posted by 50 00:12:07.940 --> 00:12:11.559 other accounts. And then there's the AI angle, 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:15.100 synthetic narration, AI generated images and 00:12:15.100 --> 00:12:20.230 content that looks like a documentary but is 00:12:20.230 --> 00:12:23.409 basically a slideshow of confident sounding claims. 00:12:24.929 --> 00:12:28.529 Some channels do this responsibly, a lot don't. 00:12:29.250 --> 00:12:32.210 The platform doesn't know what's true, it knows 00:12:32.210 --> 00:12:36.690 what's getting watched though. Fourth, Reddit 00:12:36.690 --> 00:12:42.529 and other forums. These places still have some 00:12:42.529 --> 00:12:47.340 of the best of the human internet left. because 00:12:47.340 --> 00:12:52.200 communities moderate and people call nonsense 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.139 out. But there are also targets for stealth marketing 00:12:56.139 --> 00:13:01.120 and influence campaigns. A genuine question, 00:13:01.820 --> 00:13:04.879 you know, a genuine question post, let's say 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:10.559 about a product can be an ad. A heartfelt story 00:13:10.559 --> 00:13:15.419 can be a test balloon and AI makes it easier 00:13:15.820 --> 00:13:19.840 To write posts that sound authentic enough to 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:23.980 blend in with all the other garbage Now let me 00:13:23.980 --> 00:13:31.360 be careful about a common Misconception AI text 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:37.639 equals bot Not necessarily Plenty of real people 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:44.460 use AI to edit translate or outline That's not 00:13:44.460 --> 00:13:48.440 the problem The problem when automation is used 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:54.419 to scale deceptive, you know, deception or junk. 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:02.500 Also, bot percentages are hard to pin down. Platforms 00:14:02.500 --> 00:14:07.120 publish their own estimates and enforcement stats 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.820 and researchers publish different numbers depending 00:14:10.820 --> 00:14:15.460 on methodology and what they defined as a bot. 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:23.039 If you want to verify claims, look for what data 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:26.039 set, what time window, what definition, and whether 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:30.639 the measurement can be reproduced. Here's the 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:34.519 cultural piece though. The part that hits you 00:14:34.519 --> 00:14:41.419 in the chest. When every platform starts to feel 00:14:41.419 --> 00:14:45.019 like a mall kiosk selling the same phone case, 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:51.320 People retreat. They move into private group 00:14:51.320 --> 00:14:55.980 chats, Discord servers, newsletters, small forums, 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.179 and friend circles. The public web becomes more 00:15:01.179 --> 00:15:06.480 of a billboard. And the real conversation goes 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:10.759 backstage. I've been moving in this direction 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:17.259 for a little while now. It's a shame. That's 00:15:17.259 --> 00:15:21.440 the dead internet sensation. Not that humans 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:26.399 vanished per se, but that the public commons 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:31.159 got commercialized and automated so hard that 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:34.840 authentic human presence got harder to find. 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:39.740 And the moment you believe you're mostly surrounded 00:15:39.740 --> 00:15:44.340 by bots, you behave differently. You assume bad 00:15:44.340 --> 00:15:48.490 faith faster. You stop posting. You stop helping 00:15:48.490 --> 00:15:54.990 strangers. That's a real consequence. No, you 00:15:54.990 --> 00:16:00.149 know, no, no conspiracy required. So, you know, 00:16:00.250 --> 00:16:05.830 next let's talk about what you can do practically 00:16:05.830 --> 00:16:08.830 without turning your life into a full time fact 00:16:08.830 --> 00:16:15.029 checking job. First, treat feeds like output. 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:20.940 not reality. A feed is a ranking system's best 00:16:20.940 --> 00:16:24.059 guess at what will keep you scrolling. If it 00:16:24.059 --> 00:16:28.620 feels bleak, repetitive, or just flat -out bizarre, 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:32.980 that's not necessarily what's happening. It's 00:16:32.980 --> 00:16:39.340 what performs, curates aggressively, mute keywords, 00:16:40.659 --> 00:16:44.879 hides suggested posts, and prune follows. You're 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:49.600 not being rude. You're doing maintenance. Second, 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:56.679 learn a few bot and slop detection habits. If 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.539 an account has a brand new creation date, a generic 00:17:00.539 --> 00:17:04.700 profile photo, an incoherent posting schedule, 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:07.680 and replies that don't actually respond to what 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:12.039 you said, assume automation until proven otherwise. 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:19.000 If a video makes big claims but never shows sources, 00:17:19.460 --> 00:17:24.299 names or primary material, treat it like entertainment, 00:17:24.740 --> 00:17:29.599 not information. Third, use better discovery 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:37.960 tools on purpose. RSS, really simple syndication, 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:41.440 is still one of the healthiest ways to follow 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:44.700 sites you trust without the algorithm deciding 00:17:44.700 --> 00:17:48.400 your mood. Email newsletters can be good too, 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.039 if the writer has a reputation to protect. For 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.900 search, try adding specific operators like quoting 00:17:55.900 --> 00:18:01.220 key phrases using site filters or a pending forum 00:18:01.220 --> 00:18:07.440 or PDF when you want less SEO nonsense. Fourth, 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:13.240 harden your browser a little. Add a an ad blocker 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:18.380 like uBlock Origin reduce the incentive structure 00:18:18.380 --> 00:18:24.220 of junk sites and it protects you from malvertising. 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.579 A password manager plus two factor authentication 00:18:27.579 --> 00:18:31.900 or 2FA keeps account takeovers from turning your 00:18:31.900 --> 00:18:36.440 real profile into a bot megaphone. I mean, none 00:18:36.440 --> 00:18:40.619 of this is perfect, but it lowers your exposure. 00:18:41.900 --> 00:18:49.819 Fifth, keep one mental rule. Authenticity costs 00:18:49.819 --> 00:18:55.240 something. Real humans have constraints. They 00:18:55.240 --> 00:19:00.640 forget. They have uneven tone. They have a history 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:05.279 that makes sense. Industrial content tends to 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:11.140 be smooth, frequent, and strangely interchangeable. 00:19:12.170 --> 00:19:15.490 When you remember that the internet feels less 00:19:15.490 --> 00:19:18.170 haunted and more like a marketplace with a lot 00:19:18.170 --> 00:19:22.930 of counterfeit goods still useful but you check 00:19:22.930 --> 00:19:24.670 the labels a little closely, you know what I 00:19:24.670 --> 00:19:28.410 mean and This matters because your attention 00:19:28.410 --> 00:19:33.390 is a finite resource if the web trains you to 00:19:33.390 --> 00:19:37.089 expect manipulation You'll eventually stop engaging 00:19:37.089 --> 00:19:40.769 with anything including the good stuff the goal 00:19:40.769 --> 00:19:45.609 isn't paranoia? The goal is, let's say, selective 00:19:45.609 --> 00:19:53.230 trust. So is the internet dead? No. But the part 00:19:53.230 --> 00:19:57.430 you can easily bump into, the loud, shiny, highly 00:19:57.430 --> 00:20:02.009 ranked part, that has been flooded with automation 00:20:02.009 --> 00:20:06.549 and AI made the flood cheaper and way faster. 00:20:07.230 --> 00:20:10.269 If you want the internet to feel alive again, 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:14.980 Go where humans pay a cost to be there. Communities 00:20:14.980 --> 00:20:18.480 with moderation, creators with a reputation, 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:22.359 and spaces where conversation is the product, 00:20:22.819 --> 00:20:28.880 not a side effect. Visit tylerwoodward .me, follow 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:31.319 at tylerwoodward .me on Instagram and threads, 00:20:31.900 --> 00:20:33.900 and subscribe and like the show on your favorite 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:38.660 podcast platform. I'll catch you next time.