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WEBVTT 00:00:01.850 --> 00:00:06.589 Radio loves reminding people that when disaster 00:00:06.589 --> 00:00:11.689 hits, broadcast still works. And that's true. 00:00:12.810 --> 00:00:17.269 But if we're only asking people to remember us 00:00:17.269 --> 00:00:21.429 when everything else has broke, we're admitting 00:00:21.429 --> 00:00:24.089 we stopped giving them reasons to show up for 00:00:24.089 --> 00:00:28.089 the rest of the year. Now, I grew up in the Southeast, 00:00:29.170 --> 00:00:33.560 Florida, so Hurricanes were just part of life. 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:37.039 You watch the forecast, you watch the track move 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:40.000 around, and you watch the meteorologist stand 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:42.600 up there on TV in front of the map and draw another 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:46.600 cone that somehow managed to include your house 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:51.079 again. And when things started getting really 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:58.259 serious, I remember listening to AM620WSUN and 00:00:58.259 --> 00:01:04.140 AM970WFLA. That's where the information was. 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:07.819 Weather, closures, what was happening and what 00:01:07.819 --> 00:01:12.120 was coming next. Radio was part of that routine. 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:16.560 And I think that's the part that we keep forgetting. 00:01:17.939 --> 00:01:20.439 This is the Tyler Woodward Project. I'm Tyler. 00:01:20.540 --> 00:01:23.959 I'm a broadcast engineer in the industry. And 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:29.530 today I want to talk about this idea that Radio 00:01:29.530 --> 00:01:33.709 needs to stop selling itself like the thing you 00:01:33.709 --> 00:01:36.909 use when everything else has failed. The last 00:01:36.909 --> 00:01:40.930 ditch option out there. Because I think we have 00:01:40.930 --> 00:01:47.450 a lot more to provide. Quick disclaimer before 00:01:47.450 --> 00:01:51.670 I get any further. These are my opinions. This 00:01:51.670 --> 00:01:54.430 is me thinking through an industry I've worked 00:01:54.430 --> 00:01:58.040 in professionally. since 2014 and cared about 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:02.920 way longer than that. And yes, radio absolutely 00:02:02.920 --> 00:02:06.640 matters during emergencies. I'm not saying it 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:10.020 doesn't and I'm not arguing against that. FEMA 00:02:10.020 --> 00:02:15.159 still describes local radio and television as 00:02:15.159 --> 00:02:19.639 part of the emergency warning system and specifically 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.560 points out that broadcasters can remain available 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:28.139 When other communication systems You know have 00:02:28.139 --> 00:02:33.560 failed Radio is built into real public warning 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:37.500 infrastructure. That is still true That's not 00:02:37.500 --> 00:02:41.960 some slogan the industry came up with some marketing 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:46.340 Jargon to get you to depend on radio. It is true 00:02:46.340 --> 00:02:53.580 The problem is what we do with that truth because 00:02:54.009 --> 00:02:57.750 Every time radio starts having to defend its 00:02:57.750 --> 00:03:04.189 relevance, especially AM radio, we seem to immediately 00:03:04.189 --> 00:03:12.310 reach for that disaster argument. What happens 00:03:12.310 --> 00:03:16.030 when the cell towers go down? What happens when 00:03:16.030 --> 00:03:20.009 the internet goes out? What happens when there's 00:03:20.009 --> 00:03:23.330 a tornado? What happens when there's a hurricane? 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:30.120 Okay, you know, it's all valid questions. But 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.400 that's a hell of a business plan, don't you think? 00:03:34.180 --> 00:03:42.120 Use us when everything you actually use stops 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:48.439 working. That's what we're basically saying as 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:52.419 an industry. We're positioning radio like the 00:03:52.590 --> 00:03:57.750 fire extinguisher under the kitchen sink. Very 00:03:57.750 --> 00:04:02.430 important. Yes. Absolutely should be there. Also 00:04:02.430 --> 00:04:05.629 something you sincerely hope you don't need tonight. 00:04:07.689 --> 00:04:12.650 That's not where I personally want radio to live. 00:04:12.810 --> 00:04:16.850 I want radio to be useful on Tuesday. A boring 00:04:16.850 --> 00:04:21.560 old regular Tuesday. No tornado warnings. No 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:24.959 hurricanes, no wildfires, no cell tower failures. 00:04:25.579 --> 00:04:31.480 Just Tuesday. Tell me what happened at the school 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:36.040 board meeting. Tell me why that road has been 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.160 closed for three weeks. Put the high school game 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:43.480 on. Talk to the owner of the restaurant that 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:47.360 just opened. Tell me there's a fundraiser happening 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:52.500 on Saturday. Tell me the water department screwed 00:04:52.500 --> 00:04:57.819 something up Let somebody call in because they 00:04:57.819 --> 00:05:03.399 lost their dog Play music somebody in the building 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:07.420 actually picked because it sound right for the 00:05:07.420 --> 00:05:13.500 town that you're broadcasting in Be from somewhere 00:05:13.500 --> 00:05:18.540 then when the tornado comes You don't have to 00:05:18.540 --> 00:05:21.079 convince anybody that you're actually useful. 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:28.279 They already know where you are. That's the relationship 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:36.060 we're supposed to be building here. And the numbers 00:05:36.060 --> 00:05:39.620 are actually kind of interesting here. Pew's 00:05:39.620 --> 00:05:46.180 2025 local news research found that 52 % of Americans 00:05:46.889 --> 00:05:51.629 said they at least sometimes get local news and 00:05:51.629 --> 00:05:57.410 information from radio stations. I mean, that's 00:05:57.410 --> 00:06:03.029 not nothing. But only 8 % said radio was their 00:06:03.029 --> 00:06:09.389 preferred way of getting local news. Just a measly 00:06:09.389 --> 00:06:15.889 old 8%. That should really bother. this industry 00:06:15.889 --> 00:06:19.490 more than I think it does right now. Because 00:06:19.490 --> 00:06:23.949 the audience, I mean, they haven't completely 00:06:23.949 --> 00:06:27.149 disappeared. A lot of people still encounter 00:06:27.149 --> 00:06:30.769 radio, but encountering something and choosing 00:06:30.769 --> 00:06:36.790 it are very different things. And you can't build 00:06:36.790 --> 00:06:41.089 an emergency relationship out of something people 00:06:41.089 --> 00:06:50.740 don't choose. You can't spend 11 months of the 00:06:50.740 --> 00:06:56.339 year giving somebody no reason to ever think 00:06:56.339 --> 00:07:00.300 about you then When the storm rolls in say hey 00:07:00.300 --> 00:07:02.920 remember us. Yeah, we're essential. We're here. 00:07:03.180 --> 00:07:09.519 We got you Essential to whom if I don't know 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.839 Who's on your morning show if you haven't told 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:16.560 me anything about my town lately? If your website 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:19.680 looks like it's been abandoned, if your social 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:23.439 media account is just national contest posts, 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:27.860 if the station sounds like it could be coming 00:07:27.860 --> 00:07:31.560 from literally anywhere in the country, what 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:36.060 relationship exactly are we calling on during 00:07:36.060 --> 00:07:42.819 the emergency? The transmitter? Fine, I guess. 00:07:42.980 --> 00:07:46.930 The transmitter is... useful, but radio could 00:07:46.930 --> 00:07:56.050 be more useful than its transmitter. That's where 00:07:56.050 --> 00:08:01.709 something like WELY up in Eli, Minnesota gets 00:08:01.709 --> 00:08:07.230 really interesting to me. If you haven't heard 00:08:07.230 --> 00:08:12.550 about WELY, let me tell you about them. Also, 00:08:12.550 --> 00:08:17.769 I would recommend You go watch Eric Bernstead's 00:08:17.769 --> 00:08:20.970 this week in radio tech guest appearance when 00:08:20.970 --> 00:08:26.050 he was on there with Kirk Harneck Gets way more 00:08:26.050 --> 00:08:29.970 in depth on how they rebuilt that radio station 00:08:29.970 --> 00:08:36.110 Now WELY was off the air for a few years and 00:08:36.110 --> 00:08:41.610 came back in 2025 Look at what the station talks 00:08:41.610 --> 00:08:46.100 about now and it's not just trying to be an emergency 00:08:46.100 --> 00:08:52.860 service. You know, there's local news. There's 00:08:52.860 --> 00:08:57.480 community information, local sports, a trading 00:08:57.480 --> 00:09:02.179 post, personal and emergency messages for people 00:09:02.179 --> 00:09:09.000 around the boundary waters. And yes, when wildfires 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:11.620 threatened northern Minnesota, the station leaned 00:09:11.620 --> 00:09:16.480 hard. into evacuation zones, road closures, and 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:24.279 fire information. But the emergency service makes 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.740 sense because it's attached to everything else. 00:09:26.820 --> 00:09:32.259 It's part of the place. That's what I keep coming 00:09:32.259 --> 00:09:40.960 back to. We talk about radio being local, like 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:45.110 quote unquote local, is some sort of technical 00:09:45.110 --> 00:09:50.190 specification. Tower located here, studio located 00:09:50.190 --> 00:09:53.549 here, city of license over there. That's not 00:09:53.549 --> 00:09:59.409 what people mean by being local. Local is knowing 00:09:59.409 --> 00:10:04.250 what people in the town are talking about before 00:10:04.250 --> 00:10:12.470 the emergency happens. Local is having the phone 00:10:12.470 --> 00:10:18.070 number somebody already knows to call. Local 00:10:18.070 --> 00:10:24.789 is showing up for the stupid little stuff. Especially 00:10:24.789 --> 00:10:28.870 the stupid little stuff. Because that's how trust 00:10:28.870 --> 00:10:35.070 gets built. Nobody starts trusting you at 417 00:10:35.070 --> 00:10:38.029 on a Tuesday afternoon because the tornado sirens 00:10:38.029 --> 00:10:42.450 just went off. You had to do that work at 10 00:10:42.450 --> 00:10:46.269 12 Tuesday morning when absolutely nothing was 00:10:46.269 --> 00:10:52.429 happening yet And I know I know I know oh my 00:10:52.429 --> 00:10:57.970 god, I know the pushback that Yeah, that takes 00:10:57.970 --> 00:11:05.470 people Yep It takes payroll. Yep it takes somebody 00:11:05.470 --> 00:11:08.250 answering the phone and somebody going to the 00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:12.820 meeting and Yeah, somebody covering the game 00:11:12.820 --> 00:11:16.759 and somebody paying attention to the place, a 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:22.460 place that may not generate a giant quarterly 00:11:22.460 --> 00:11:28.860 return. You'd be correct. That's the problem. 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:34.539 You can't automate community presence down to 00:11:34.539 --> 00:11:37.970 almost nothing and then Expect the community 00:11:37.970 --> 00:11:41.110 to feel some deep civic attachment to your transmitter. 00:11:42.909 --> 00:11:48.649 Those two things don't go together. Radio absolutely 00:11:48.649 --> 00:11:52.970 has technical advantages during emergency. I'm 00:11:52.970 --> 00:11:55.889 not saying it doesn't. Keep talking about it. 00:11:56.289 --> 00:12:00.190 That is a true advantage, yes. Fight to keep 00:12:00.190 --> 00:12:03.529 radio in cars, yes. Maintain the emergency infrastructure, 00:12:03.669 --> 00:12:07.860 of course. maintain backup power, train people, 00:12:08.259 --> 00:12:17.299 test the EAS equipment, all of it. But that can't 00:12:17.299 --> 00:12:20.580 be the entire argument for the entire medium. 00:12:22.379 --> 00:12:29.419 Because if the strongest pitch we have left is 00:12:29.419 --> 00:12:33.570 that radio becomes useful only After the newer 00:12:33.570 --> 00:12:38.450 technology fails, we're not really making a real 00:12:38.450 --> 00:12:41.389 good case for radio, at least in my opinion, 00:12:41.509 --> 00:12:44.470 again, as all these episodes are based on my 00:12:44.470 --> 00:12:49.730 opinion. We're making the case for being the 00:12:49.730 --> 00:12:54.110 backup equipment. And I think radio can be way 00:12:54.110 --> 00:12:59.909 more than just a piece of backup equipment. I 00:12:59.909 --> 00:13:03.149 still think. There's a place for this medium 00:13:03.149 --> 00:13:07.850 Maybe yeah, maybe smaller than it used to be 00:13:07.850 --> 00:13:12.269 but that's not a bad thing. I Think that's a 00:13:12.269 --> 00:13:17.190 good thing We can be more niche. We can be more 00:13:17.190 --> 00:13:23.350 Yeah niche niche, whatever however you say So 00:13:23.350 --> 00:13:26.889 I don't think being smaller is a bad thing we 00:13:26.889 --> 00:13:31.980 can be more hyper local then Apple Music One 00:13:31.980 --> 00:13:36.940 or anything on TuneIn or your iHeart competition 00:13:36.940 --> 00:13:40.679 down the road who has nobody left in that organization. 00:13:44.039 --> 00:13:46.980 So probably more local than a lot of companies 00:13:46.980 --> 00:13:50.759 would like it to be. Probably less efficient 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:55.879 on a spreadsheet. But, but after all of that, 00:13:56.799 --> 00:14:02.860 still useful. actually, genuinely, truly useful. 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:10.940 Every day. Every week. 365 days a year. 24 -7. 00:14:13.340 --> 00:14:17.700 The emergency piece should be the extension of 00:14:17.700 --> 00:14:27.700 that service. Not the substitute for it. When 00:14:27.700 --> 00:14:33.769 the hurricane came when I was growing up. I knew 00:14:33.769 --> 00:14:37.509 where to turn on the radio because the radio 00:14:37.509 --> 00:14:43.190 was already there. Even the TV stations at the 00:14:43.190 --> 00:14:49.250 time would say you can hear coverage if your 00:14:49.250 --> 00:14:51.649 power goes out. Battery powered radio you can 00:14:51.649 --> 00:15:01.039 tune to X, Y and Z stations. That's the lesson. 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:06.740 Not that people suddenly discover radio when 00:15:06.740 --> 00:15:11.519 the lights go out. It's that when things go wrong, 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:16.100 people reach for the things they already know, 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:19.720 they already trust, and they already have a relationship 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:29.200 with. I think, again, my opinion, We need to 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:36.440 spend a lot more time on earning that trust and 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:42.120 building those relationships back up because 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:49.059 regardless of what the media industry publications 00:15:49.059 --> 00:15:54.600 online or at the NAB or at any state broadcasters 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:58.519 association would like you to believe, Radio 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:07.659 is slowly being forgotten here. And I think we 00:16:07.659 --> 00:16:13.240 can turn it around. We're way more useful than 00:16:13.240 --> 00:16:16.480 just being a conduit for the emergency alert 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:21.379 system. So that's the show. 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